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	<description>An Exploration of What Influences Us</description>
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		<title>By: Bdfdwjfz</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-49709</link>
		<dc:creator>Bdfdwjfz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shaping Youth</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-12647</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaping Youth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that, Anil...and you're right...choice is everything, as is CRED. I'd argue that it's not size, but acumen and intelligence that matters in the sphere of influence...I think Citizen Journalism is only as good as its research allows...

One has to have trust, have patience, and find your gold nuggets where you can...amazingly, Shaping Youth has become 'small but mighty' by representing the 'massive middle' trying to deconstruct all sides with analysis that's mainstream and centrist vs. special interest group-driven. (of course that also explains why we're broke and seeking funding! heehee) ;-)

I'll check out the Rising Voices report! Thanks! Best, Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that, Anil&#8230;and you&#8217;re right&#8230;choice is everything, as is CRED. I&#8217;d argue that it&#8217;s not size, but acumen and intelligence that matters in the sphere of influence&#8230;I think Citizen Journalism is only as good as its research allows&#8230;</p>
<p>One has to have trust, have patience, and find your gold nuggets where you can&#8230;amazingly, Shaping Youth has become &#8217;small but mighty&#8217; by representing the &#8216;massive middle&#8217; trying to deconstruct all sides with analysis that&#8217;s mainstream and centrist vs. special interest group-driven. (of course that also explains why we&#8217;re broke and seeking funding! heehee) <img src='http://blog.ogilvypr.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check out the Rising Voices report! Thanks! Best, Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-11668</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it's got to do with the 'credibility' issue as in a blogger is a brand by himself/herself as opposed to traditional media outlets.

The point is if credibility can only accrue to 'organisations' an not 'individuals'? 

Blogging is powerful primarily because you get the choice to choose whom you want to read, a voice. This is not something traditional media can boast of, more so when they're trying to reach out to almost everyone out there!

Rising Voices recently released a very interesting guide/report titled "An Introduction to Citizen Media" and the change it is bringing in its wake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s got to do with the &#8216;credibility&#8217; issue as in a blogger is a brand by himself/herself as opposed to traditional media outlets.</p>
<p>The point is if credibility can only accrue to &#8216;organisations&#8217; an not &#8216;individuals&#8217;? </p>
<p>Blogging is powerful primarily because you get the choice to choose whom you want to read, a voice. This is not something traditional media can boast of, more so when they&#8217;re trying to reach out to almost everyone out there!</p>
<p>Rising Voices recently released a very interesting guide/report titled &#8220;An Introduction to Citizen Media&#8221; and the change it is bringing in its wake.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaping Youth</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-11190</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaping Youth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all...Amy Jussel here, I agree with MC Milker, as I sure didn't want to drag Shaping Youth into the NYTimes based on this brouhaha, and was reticent to even e-interview for fear of calling too much attention to 'one ad' vs. the bigger context of ambient advertising objectification (which is what the ORIGINAL post was about) http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=969

Brava to Kaitlyn for her insight on how corp. marketers could handle the blogosphere better...Look at the instance of Jott.com, for example...when they had some transcription glitches reflecting poorly on their product in the blogosphere, and someone even posted a "misjott" social media hub with hilarious examples of 'misjotted' voicemails...

Instead of dismissing blogger concerns or getting huffy and defensive, the CEO of Jott went ON the rogue site, left a warm, human, response along the lines of 'hey, folks, we hear ya, we're working on this and only in beta, so by all means hit us with your best shot so we can LEARN from it and improve our messaging and performance' ---

Voila! Case closed...Brilliant customer service, corporate PR, and kudos and praise poured in from new media hubs, both for the application itself, and the CEO's handling of the glitches. 

Now, since I'm not in PR...I have a question for YOU all...is it better to reframe/address skewed contexts of our org (Shaping Youth) or ignore it altogether and just let it run its course? 

I tried the latter after the original post was hijacked into the 'one ad' vs. larger objectification sphere. But by leaving it uncorrected, it showed up as UGC opinion-poll banter making it appear it was all much ado about nothing...How can orgs guard against this without sounding defensive? Is there a way to protect a brand from misinformed minutiae other than ignoring it? Being a little guy, we could use some PR guidance here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all&#8230;Amy Jussel here, I agree with MC Milker, as I sure didn&#8217;t want to drag Shaping Youth into the NYTimes based on this brouhaha, and was reticent to even e-interview for fear of calling too much attention to &#8216;one ad&#8217; vs. the bigger context of ambient advertising objectification (which is what the ORIGINAL post was about) <a href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=969" rel="nofollow">http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=969</a></p>
<p>Brava to Kaitlyn for her insight on how corp. marketers could handle the blogosphere better&#8230;Look at the instance of Jott.com, for example&#8230;when they had some transcription glitches reflecting poorly on their product in the blogosphere, and someone even posted a &#8220;misjott&#8221; social media hub with hilarious examples of &#8216;misjotted&#8217; voicemails&#8230;</p>
<p>Instead of dismissing blogger concerns or getting huffy and defensive, the CEO of Jott went ON the rogue site, left a warm, human, response along the lines of &#8216;hey, folks, we hear ya, we&#8217;re working on this and only in beta, so by all means hit us with your best shot so we can LEARN from it and improve our messaging and performance&#8217; &#8212;</p>
<p>Voila! Case closed&#8230;Brilliant customer service, corporate PR, and kudos and praise poured in from new media hubs, both for the application itself, and the CEO&#8217;s handling of the glitches. </p>
<p>Now, since I&#8217;m not in PR&#8230;I have a question for YOU all&#8230;is it better to reframe/address skewed contexts of our org (Shaping Youth) or ignore it altogether and just let it run its course? </p>
<p>I tried the latter after the original post was hijacked into the &#8216;one ad&#8217; vs. larger objectification sphere. But by leaving it uncorrected, it showed up as UGC opinion-poll banter making it appear it was all much ado about nothing&#8230;How can orgs guard against this without sounding defensive? Is there a way to protect a brand from misinformed minutiae other than ignoring it? Being a little guy, we could use some PR guidance here!</p>
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		<title>By: MC Milker</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-11181</link>
		<dc:creator>MC Milker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing is nothing new...20 years in brand marketing taught me that! 

What was missing at Target was a "customer service policy" - everyone is a potential customer, professional journalists, bloggers, vendors, service providers...everyone who comes into contact with any employee of Target should be considered a potential customer - which is why the response from press relations was so odd.

Having visited buyers at both Wal-Mart and Target many times, I find it odd that the "customer first" attitude evidenced by those departments hasn't made it over to P.R.

LOL- some days it's really bad to be having a bad day...you could end up in the NY Times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing is nothing new&#8230;20 years in brand marketing taught me that! </p>
<p>What was missing at Target was a &#8220;customer service policy&#8221; - everyone is a potential customer, professional journalists, bloggers, vendors, service providers&#8230;everyone who comes into contact with any employee of Target should be considered a potential customer - which is why the response from press relations was so odd.</p>
<p>Having visited buyers at both Wal-Mart and Target many times, I find it odd that the &#8220;customer first&#8221; attitude evidenced by those departments hasn&#8217;t made it over to P.R.</p>
<p>LOL- some days it&#8217;s really bad to be having a bad day&#8230;you could end up in the NY Times!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-11168</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yianni - I found this interesting comparison of Target and WalMart's competing back-to-school Facebook plays by our friend over at Web Strategy by Jeremiah.  (Spoiler Alert - Target comes out ahead!)

http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/10/facebook-
sponsored-group-analysis-target-vs-wal-mart/

Perhaps the right hand should be talking to the left in this case!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yianni - I found this interesting comparison of Target and WalMart&#8217;s competing back-to-school Facebook plays by our friend over at Web Strategy by Jeremiah.  (Spoiler Alert - Target comes out ahead!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/10/facebook-" rel="nofollow">http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/09/10/facebook-</a><br />
sponsored-group-analysis-target-vs-wal-mart/</p>
<p>Perhaps the right hand should be talking to the left in this case!</p>
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		<title>By: Yianni Garcia</title>
		<link>http://blog.ogilvypr.com/2008/01/missing-the-social-media-target/comment-page-1/#comment-11166</link>
		<dc:creator>Yianni Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can it possibly be true? Walmart is ahead of Target in social media. Now would be a good time to pitch Target with a social media campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can it possibly be true? Walmart is ahead of Target in social media. Now would be a good time to pitch Target with a social media campaign.</p>
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